[users] drbd83 still in testing

Alan Bartlett ajb at elrepo.org
Tue Aug 10 16:27:39 CEST 2010

On 10 August 2010 10:57, Fabian Arrotin <fabian.arrotin at arrfab.net> wrote:
> Alan Bartlett wrote:
>> On 9 August 2010 16:59, Dag Wieers <dag at wieers.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>>>> Any plans to move this out of testing? I have been running it since
>>>> creation in production without hiccup.
>>> The kmod-drbd83 package is part of the ELRepo project, so I forwarded
>>> this
>>> discussion to the ELRepo mailinglist at
>>>   http://lists.elrepo.org/mailman/listinfo/elrepo
>>> I do think we have to promote this to the stable repository. So you have
>>> my
>>> vote as well ;-)
>> O.k. folks, a few questions:
>> (1) When was the package first made publicly available by us (the
>> ELRepo Project)?
>> (2) Any advances on two satisfied users (JLC, DW)?
>> (3) Has the package been tested to destruction on a sacrificial / test
>> system?
>> (4) Any quirks / oddities, etc, noticed?
>> (5) Do we have a maintainer for that package, as distinct from the
>> builder of the package? The maintainer will have to be a person who
>> uses it daily / regularly and understands it. (That rules *me* out.)
>> Alan.
> Hi All,
> Just curious : are there any reasons why it would have to compete with the
> packages from CentOS Extras ? and what are the differences (if any) between
> those two packages ?
> --
> --
> Fabian Arrotin

Let me clarify things and, at the same time, dispel a myth.

The ELRepo Project was founded to provide support for users of (Red
Hat's) Enterprise Linux operating systems and to augment the Upstream
products in those areas which are currently lacking.

As Red Hat's sources are also used by others to build derivatives (for
example, Scientific Linux) or clones (for example, CentOS) of the
Upstream Product (RHEL), the packages made available by the ELRepo
Project for are also compatible with Scientific Linux or CentOS. The
CentOS Project is "downstream" of both Red Hat and the ELRepo Project.

The CentOS Project has been, and still is, given as much support as
possible by my colleagues and I (up to the limit that the active
CentOS Project Developers allow us to give). Packages created by the
CentOS Project are, per se, for the users of its product, CentOS, and
not for users of RHEL.

There is no competition between the ELRepo Project and the CentOS
Project, from where my colleagues and I stand. Are you, Fabian with
your more intimate knowledge of the internal workings of the CentOS
Project, telling me that the developers of the CentOS Project have
decided that there should be a competition? If so, sorry, we decline
to take part.

I trust that clarifies the situation.

Now to dispel the myth. Certain derogatory statements with regard to
the ELRepo Project have been circulating ever since it was founded.
The myth enhancers have tried to make a connection between those myths
and certain CentOS Project Developers, so much so that yet another
myth arose. The latter myth I find quite amusing and I reproduce it
below, in pseudo C-code:

(ajb !like cpd) || (cpd !like ajb) || ((ajb !like cpd) && (cpd !like ajb))

where ajb represents me and cpd represents a certain CentOS Project Developer.


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